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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:45:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Guttripper wrote:I must really be behind the times... I thought she was running the show already after Soundwave went off to Riot.
Who was her predecessor? CCP Soundwave was. The seat was empty for a long time, with CCP Pokethulhu filling in as needed.
I thought this was CCP Unifex's old job she was taking, not CCP Soudwave's. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:57:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Ray Kyonhe wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:
This is EvE Online, a sandbox mmo-rpg, not kindergarten themepark carebear online, there are alot of other games that suit your needs. Try hello kitty online.
Btw, I ninja edited my post to clerify definitions. Do you have some s3cr3t l33t PvP Order, handing out propaganda brochures to its agents? Because those cliches, like "kindergarden", "Hallo Kitty" etc surface all over the forum and became sort of vanity words. No one hurt by them or offended anymore. As for main point, there hasn't been one mmo game in the world, who profited in any way from badly implemented PvE. And in Eve PvE is awfull. Their is no such thing as PvE in EvE Online, every single activity is PvP competiton. Even logging in can be PvP, if you have a keylogger on your computer. CCP doesn't condone the act of account stealing. It's in no way allowable PvP and account theft is not something CCP has ever promoted as PvP.
Furthermore non-depleting resources like missions are in and of themselves effectively not PvP as doing them itself causes no isk or LP competition (those only become "PvP" later at the market level) and since doing them itself causes no reduction for others their is no competition in the act itself. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:16:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:CCP doesn't condone the act of account stealing. It's in no way allowable PvP and account theft is not something CCP has ever promoted as PvP.
Furthermore non-depleting resources like missions are in and of themselves effectively not PvP as doing them itself causes no isk or LP competition (those only become "PvP" later at the market level) and since doing them itself causes no reduction for others their is no competition in the act itself. In EvE Online, everything is releated with PvP competition, including missions. I've demonstrated how they aren't, so unless you have reasoning to back it up, your words are a little hollow.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:38:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:CCP doesn't condone the act of account stealing. It's in no way allowable PvP and account theft is not something CCP has ever promoted as PvP.
Furthermore non-depleting resources like missions are in and of themselves effectively not PvP as doing them itself causes no isk or LP competition (those only become "PvP" later at the market level) and since doing them itself causes no reduction for others their is no competition in the act itself. In EvE Online, everything is releated with PvP competition, including missions. I've demonstrated how they aren't, so unless you have reasoning to back it up, your words are a little hollow. You only demonstrated your ignorance on the subject of sandbox mmo-rpg's. EvE Online is all about Player vs Player interactive competition, Gathering Resources, Manufacturing and Destruction, it's all Player vs Player, even when you're logged out. Missions/Incursions are a sandbox feature (Gathering Resources), the players doing it affect the economy and other players can invade the "dungeon" to steal loot, ninja salvage or even gank. That's a long way of saying you can't justify you position. Basing you claim on "What eve is" and what people can do doesn't change the nature of what a missioner is doing in itself. If others aren't interacting with the missioner, which is the case the vast majority of the time, the only factors are the environment, a series on non-player entities, and the player, often just one, interacting with those entities.
Those are the basic mechanics of missioning. Ganking/stealing/ninja-salvaging are not a part of those basic mission mechanics and aren't frequently encountered. That being the case there is more often than not no other player interacting to make PvE into PvP. Additionally I've already stated how missioning in itself provides no economic competition. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:51:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:No, wrong again. The simple fact that you are in a sandbox doing a activity like a mission influences everyone, you are affecting the economy, you are competing with other players, you are doing PvP. If my isk and LP never hit the market, how am I affecting the economy? Also how is my missioning competing with anyone under that same circumstance?
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1251
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Posted - 2014.07.26 03:02:00 -
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HiddenPorpoise wrote:Yay. Be better than Soundwave.
What's in Hyp?
Did Soundwave occupy this position? I thought this was formerly Unifex's job and Zulu(park) before that. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1254
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Posted - 2014.07.27 18:56:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Firstly congrats to CCP Seagull on her new position(s) Tyberius Franklin wrote:If my isk and LP never hit the market, how am I affecting the economy? Also how is my missioning competing with anyone under that same circumstance? So you never spend any of the bounty or mission rewards you get from PvE, you never trade in your LP for stuff? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
The can with several bill in LP sitting in in for months argues otherwise, but your belief that I am a perfect example of it or not isn't necessary for the thought exercise nor does it detract from the truth of the statement.
And for a pure PvE player doing so really isn't necessary after a point. Get ships, get skills, get ammo bp's to produce own ammo from loot reprocessing then enjoy your self sufficient little microcosm of NPC interaction. Even trading in the LP and just sitting on the mods does jack to the market. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1254
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Posted - 2014.07.28 03:17:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:if my isk and LP never hit the market, how am I affecting the economy? Also how is my missioning competing with anyone under that same circumstance?
You mine and refine the ore and build everything you fly/use/fit from NPC bought, researched blueprints? I haven't needed to buy anything in a while. When you don't lose ships you don't need to replace or refit them. After that the only BPO's you need are for ammo and you're set. Don't even need to mine if you loot.
So at one point sure, there was market interaction necessitated by limits on my charater and assets, but that point can be ended pretty quick with even the slightest desire, without it at most your buying ammo every once in a while. What confuses me is the thinking that a pure PvE player needs to go to the market constantly.
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